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FAQ’s

Do we have to carry all our water for the week-end?
Water will be available at Event Centre and Overnight Camp; it may need to be treated (boiled) at the overnight site. Notices will be erected to remind you of this.

What are the toilet arrangements?
Mobile units will be on site at both the Overnight and Event Centre.

Can we camp at the Event Centre?
Camping is available free at the Event Centre from late on Friday afternoon and tents can be left erected until Sunday pm if required.

What is available at the Overnight Camp?
Beer and Milk will be available only. This must be pre-ordered in June.

What maps do we get?
Each competitor will be given a 1:25,000 map each specially printed for the event area, along with a map bag. The map will be issued at the Start on Saturday.

When do we find out the area?
About a month before the event we will put the Event Centre venue on the Web Site, the overnight site will only be disclosed to you when you get your route on the Saturday morning of the event.

Tee shirts sales?
Commemorative tee shirts should be purchased when you make your entry, and will be available for collection at the event. Only a very few of all sizes will be available to purchase at the event on a first come basis.

Can we use GPS?
All forms of GPS are not allowed to be carried including GPS built into mobiles.

Can we use Pertex waterproofs
Full Waterproof clothing must be carried by both team members. This means quality waterproofs with the manufacturer stating the garment is waterproof. Mac in Sac type jackets at £30 are not acceptable.

The FRA regards “waterproof” to be a garment marketed as “waterproof” (i.e. not merely “windproof”) with taped seams. Such garments require maintaining (i.e. cleaning and reproofing) to maintain their waterproof quality.

The core standard is for WATERPROOF (i.e. not merely windproof) whole body cover. The FRA view of “whole body cover” is an outer layer for the torso with an attached hood (an attached hood, unlike even the best hat, balaclava etc., will not blow away, be lost or left behind) and that a hat and gloves should also be carried. For the legs, the outer waterproof layer should reach the ankles; just below the knee layers are not adequate.

Which course should I do?

If you have not done a Mountain Marathon before it can be a bit difficult deciding which is the best course to do. As a rule of thumb we would suggest that you do to a shorter course rather than a longer one. The first impression you get is that the distances seem short. Do not be fooled. The distances quoted are straight line distances between each check point and the heights are the minimum you can expect to climb. As a rough indication, you can expect to go between 30% and 50% more on the distance and anything up to double the climb.

For those with fell running experience, remember that you have to carry a rucksack and navigate.

For those with orienteering experience the distance and climbs are considerably greater.

For those with mountain experience being able to run …

… all of this over 2 days and in any weather conditions.

If you do not have any of the above experience, you should only be doing a mountain marathon with someone who has participated in previous similar events.

The best indication is to look at previous events and check the times that the leaders and tail enders take.

As a guide, I would suggest that you look at Wansfell or Harter Fell classes for your first mountain marathon. Do one of these for your first event to give you a feel and then progress through the classes as you gain more experience.

As an additional guide, the course descriptions on the Event web site give an indication of the maximum time you should take compared with the leaders.

If you are still unsure, please ask.

How is the veterans handicap calculated?.

  • Veterans must have a combined age of 90 or over
  • For linear courses the team’s time is reduced by 1 minute for each 2 years over 90 for each hour the team was out
  • For example combined age of 90/91 gives 1 minute/hour, 92/93 gives 2 minutes/hour, 94/95 gives 3 minutes/hour etc.
  • For score courses the team’s score is increased by 1.5% for each year over 90
  • If a team has negative points then no adjustment is made

How is the handicap calculated for the Bedafell class?

  • There will be a handicap calculated solely on the age of the junior.
  • The handicap will be minus one minute for every month under 18 years of age on Day 1.
  • This handicap will be subtracted from the total running time over the two days
  • The range of handicap will be from 47 minutes for someone of 14 years and 0 months on Day 1 to 0 minutes for someone of 17 years and 11 months on Day 1
  • The course will be similar to Wansfell
  • Prizes will be awarded on Handicap time only

Example:

Team has a junior who is 16 years and 5 months on Day 1. That is 1 year and 6 months or 18 months under 18 years of age. Their handicap is therefore minus 18 minutes. The team has a total running time over the two days of 7 hours and 23 minutes. Their handicap time is less 18 minutes giving 7 hours and 5 minutes. The handicap time will be used in awarding prizes.

Can my entry be deferred until next year?
If we receive an application for a refund no later than 6 weeks before the event we will return 50% of your entry fee. No entry can be deferred until the next year.

 

If you are still unsure, please ask.